tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post8868653207636054701..comments2023-05-01T06:05:27.013-04:00Comments on Red Wings Corner: Crosby needs a history lessonChuck Pleinesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05687215987088549996noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-9663351687656237142009-06-21T20:46:39.254-04:002009-06-21T20:46:39.254-04:00Thanks Anonymous for the feedback. I'd appreci...Thanks Anonymous for the feedback. I'd appreciate if you held off on name calling like whiners. And it would help if you could spell whiners too.<br /><br />A couple of factual things though ...<br /><br />The Wings waited for the Penguins. No Wing left the ice until Guerin and others came to center ice. My question is still why didn't Crosby join in? And unless you were there to tell me otherwise ... I was there ... I'm not buying the media hounding thing. Crosby had a couple of TV interviews, no more. No other media other than national TV were allowed on the ice until 20 minutes after the game. And are you saying that Crosby was the first Cup winning captain to be too busy to join the handshake line? Gretzky never was? Messier never was? Why are you saying that Crosby went through something different than any NHL captain before him? Don't you think that Yzerman had the same duties? He managed to make the handshake line in time.<br /><br />Second, the Wings didn't get out of there as soon as possible. I watched. They waited for the initial line. Then some of them waited at the end of the line for Crosby.<br /><br />That said, I think your other thoughts are valid. Detroit should be ashamed of booing when the Cup was presented and cheering when Crosby was hurt. I didn't like either crowd reaction. And both of those things are worse than Crosby screwing up the handshake line.<br /><br />That said, Crosby did screw up on handshakes. Why does everyone want to make excuses for him? No big deal. He screwed up, not as bad as a crowd cheering an injury, but Crosby screwed up. No excuses for either.Chuck Pleinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687215987088549996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-54503859897721653912009-06-21T20:34:13.597-04:002009-06-21T20:34:13.597-04:00Have you winers at this Blog seen the video? Crosb...Have you winers at this Blog seen the video? Crosby was hounded by the media, and he made his way over as fast as he could. His team took time to celebrate. If I remember correctly, the Wings took their good old time to celebrate in Pittsburgh after game six of 2008. The penguins waited patiently, shook hands, and took it like men. Crosby has no stake in shunning several members of the losing team. This complaint is Draper's attempt to be relevant, probably because he knows he was a passenger for his cup victories. The simple fact is that it is up to the losing team to wait for the winning team to finish the celebration. The Wings couldn't take the loss at the Joe. They got out of there as soon as possible. <br /><br />By the way, I don't remember the Penguins fans booing during the cup presentation. Don't give me any crap about it being about the commissioner, either. The fans should have known how it would look. <br /><br />Sidney Crosby owes no apology. In the meantime, it looks like you fellows in Detroit have something else to cry about. Let's so Obama bail you out of this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-67935400875985926332009-06-20T21:48:54.446-04:002009-06-20T21:48:54.446-04:00Hockey25 seems to be in love with sindey. Hmmmm? ...Hockey25 seems to be in love with sindey. Hmmmm? Watch the replay fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-28708583486843680662009-06-19T11:21:53.931-04:002009-06-19T11:21:53.931-04:00I am so embarrassed as a hockey player that Sidney...I am so embarrassed as a hockey player that Sidney Crosby is the face of my sport.<br /><br />I just made the picture of Sugar Jim Henry my desktop background at work.<br /><br />I played last night with a sore hip, knee and groin. But two of our captains were out. During some festivities in the 2nd period, I hog tied my teammate and dragged him out of them to end them.<br /><br />At the end of the game, I congratulated all of the players on the other team, that were not ejected, for being good sports.<br /><br />I am always last in line at handshakes, because I shake all of my own team first, and I also make sure that all of my team mates get in line to shake hands, even last night I had to drag a guy away from the ref and put him in line. I told the ref, "he can come back after the handshake."<br /><br />We won 6-1. We utterly destroyed and demoralized them. Considering we had 9 minor penalties including 3 5-3's against it was an ugly game. But every one of their guys who played hard, and played with maturity and grit and stuck out the whole game despite the lopsided nature deserved the respect of every player on my bench and I am going to make sure they get it.<br /><br />I would not take Crosby on my amateur team if he begged me. I do not need someone who is such a poor sport to embarrass me or his teammates or his opponents on the ice. This is a game about passion and respect. Without opponents, you cannot play the game.<br /><br />Last, why did Maxime Talbot not win the Conn Smyth? I would have voted Talbot-Orpik-Letang for Conn Smyth. I also healvily debate Fedotenko on that. Without the defensive work of those three guys and the offense Talbot contributed the series would have lasted 4 games and the penguins would have a short summer to think about losing a 2nd time.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780163982873955247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-24673878274756770212009-06-18T13:51:46.321-04:002009-06-18T13:51:46.321-04:00Mike Canada ... thanks for the catch.
I will try ...Mike Canada ... thanks for the catch.<br /><br />I will try to post awards voting if and when I can. Good idea.Chuck Pleinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687215987088549996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-62604104990735458792009-06-18T13:51:16.982-04:002009-06-18T13:51:16.982-04:00Hey Hockey25. Well you might have read that the Wi...Hey Hockey25. Well you might have read that the Wings made Carolina wait in 2002, but I can give you a first-hand report on that. I was there in 2009, 2008, 2002 and in 1998 when the Wings were in the Stanley Cup final. Detroit did not make Carolina wait long for a hand shake in 2002.<br /><br />One question for you about Crosby and the handshake ... Why was your captain the last man to go through the line? Why were Guerin and Kuntiz there a long time before Crosby was?Chuck Pleinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05687215987088549996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-45313796150766375252009-06-18T13:41:36.868-04:002009-06-18T13:41:36.868-04:00How ridiculous! The Redwings players gave Crosby l...How ridiculous! The Redwings players gave Crosby less time to shake hands than what the Penguins were expected to give them last year! You could actually say that the Redwings were the disrespectful ones here! I've read that they made the Carolina team wait almost 10 min. after winning the Cup a few years ago! This just goes to show that the Redwings aren't the "class" of the league. They were so disappointed that their "sure" victory didn't happen that they had to find some way to make it not about their loss. Get over it! You lost. Move on and act like you've been there before. Sore losers!Hockey25noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-19637545378547882072009-06-18T13:33:04.545-04:002009-06-18T13:33:04.545-04:00Lets hope that his name is spelled wrong on the cu...Lets hope that his name is spelled wrong on the cup. Sindey would be good, but Cindy would be better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-53135064944038767172009-06-18T09:18:56.412-04:002009-06-18T09:18:56.412-04:00Very true how he has been shaking hands with teams...Very true how he has been shaking hands with teams his whole life. He was very disrespectful at the end of game seven which I noticed right away. He did shake hands with Babcock, but blew him off. He needs to shave the peach fuzz off his face and GROW UP! I agree that Guerin was their leader after the game and a veteran like him should be leading a team instead of a child. Go Wings, plenty of good seasons ahead of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-80368588864005113782009-06-17T21:31:00.491-04:002009-06-17T21:31:00.491-04:00Excellent article. I've been reading all of t...Excellent article. I've been reading all of the fan blogs regarding this incident, with Pens and Wings fans alike, getting vicious. Your article sums up EXACTLY how I felt about a lack of respect, class, maturity and yes, toughness. Sidney Crosby may be skilled, but he is no Yzerman.Joanienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-86416604708707027392009-06-17T18:00:51.873-04:002009-06-17T18:00:51.873-04:00Nice read and interesting perspective. I was at th...Nice read and interesting perspective. I was at the game and noticed the Wings standing around but I was so caught up in the moment that I didn't consciously count how long they were waiting for Crosby to skate over (after shaking hands with every other Pens player). So how long was it really? <br /><br />Also, did you mean to put "Sidney Crosby was UNABLE to do the same" in the final sentence?<br /><br />If you can get your hands on it, can you post all the voting results of the NHL awards after it happens tomorrow night?<br /><br />Thanks for everything this season! I really enjoy checking your blog. Hopefully you can update it daily next season!Mike Canadanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8767965973861050539.post-27763562295911155242009-06-17T17:54:43.000-04:002009-06-17T17:54:43.000-04:00Bruce:
The comment about "a young man absorb...Bruce:<br /><br />The comment about "a young man absorbed in himself, fixated on his personal glory" was not only reinforced, but thrown into glaring spotlight when Crosby told the AP:<br /><br />"<b>I</b>", (not <b>we</b>, mind you), but "<b>I</b> just won the Stanley Cup."<br /><br />Pathetic display from Super Mario, too, in practically crediting Crosby for the Cup single-handedly while the rest of the scrubs apparently did nothing more than stand around in awe and watch Sid go to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com